It was always an absolute pleasure to explore the sitter’s visual character through their reactions to my various questions. These sessions were like therapy sessions. I would solicit personal thoughts from the sitter designating specific aspects of their lives. Each time I would prepare by researching their life history, it was a satisfying extension.

I was very privileged that Alex Liberman gave me this opportunity generally reserved for Penn. When I photographed Liz Smith, she suggested I set up in LA as a photo therapist. She thought I could make a fortune.